Fight for Topgol–again!
Posted by myg
Fight for Topgol with moves, people.
I kicked this bastard in the head so hard he’ll have a migraine for a week, I promise. There’s more.
Exchange of the night:
[22:36] Lana MISSING: its a game for God’s sake!
[22:36] Alexander Burgess: yes, and we play rough
And we sure do, let me tell you.
This evening’s casino camper rampage started, as it always does, with the damned lag.
I wanted to give up. Throw in the towel. Admit defeat. But no, no.
Alex said: “Get your ass up.” But that wasn’t all.
[22:07] You: WHAT did you call me dude?
[22:08] You: come say that over here
[22:08] You: yeah
[22:08] You: that’s what I thought
[22:08] You: drunk motherfucker
[22:08] Alexander Burgess: imma take you out
I wasn’t going to take that lying down, so I challenged him. Right in the middle of the 12 12 Casino Casino Monkey Monkey. Yeah, right in the middle of that stankin’ camper-leech infested sim-performance sucking shithole. We took our dirty business and aired it right out by the Easy Money Bonus Slots.
I thought I’d show them all my bonus slot, but Alex had a better idea. Instead of fighting each other, we fought for Topgol, right there in the casino. We battered the camping scum. The insults were flying. The tears, flowing. The rage was hard on.
[22:26] You: Listen up camping bitches!
[22:26] You: This here is Mainland
[22:27] You: And this *cough cough* illegal online gambling establishment causes the sim to lag
[22:27] You: We’ve tried to be reasonable
[22:27] You: we’ve tried to talk to the owner
[22:27] You: we’ve tried being nice
[22:27] Alexander Burgess: yep, that’s right ILLEGAL
[22:27] Alexander Burgess: and we’re going to write about it in a very public way
[22:27] You: but he won’t take his shitty casino to a private sim where he can have all the laggy scripts and camping chairs he wants
[22:28] SLP Bonus Camping Chair 1.2 (1): 214 TROLL cashing out for L$38
[22:28] Alexander Burgess: see the error of your ways
[22:28] Alexander Burgess: yes brother!
[22:28] You: how’s this for a lapdance bitch?
[22:29] You: We’ve talked to the asshole owner at length
[22:30] You: but he doesn’t give a shit that there’s a community of people here who care about this sim and the great city build
[22:30] You: he only cares about his business
[22:30] You: so since he’s never here, you all have to pay
[22:30] You: I’m sorry, but that’s the way it is
[22:30] You: who wants me to kick their ass first?
[22:32] Lana MISSING: could you please move?
[22:32] Alexander Burgess: lol
[22:32] You: NO CAN YOU MOVE BITCH?
[22:32] Alexander Burgess: that’s what we want you to do, MOVE
[22:33] Alexander Burgess: leave
[22:33] Lana MISSING: you look retarded, but if you want to stay, go ahead
[22:33] You: I look awesome, and your face is missing
[22:33] Arwin LAME: lana
[22:33] You: stinky ho
[22:33] Arwin LAME: hi!
[22:33] Lana MISSING: hi Arwin
[22:33] Alexander Burgess: hi Arwin!
[22:34] You: Arwin! Would you like a free beating tonight?
[22:34] Arwin LAME: who is this idiot?
[22:34] Alexander Burgess: we live here Arwin
[22:34] Alexander Burgess: and you campers lag the shit out of our home
[22:35] Arwin LAME: oh get a life
[22:35] Alexander Burgess: campers have no life
[22:35] Arwin LAME: let me report abuse
[22:35] Alexander Burgess: get a fucking job
[22:35] You: Bothering you is my fucking life
[22:35] Alexander Burgess: ok, report abuse in an illegal casino
[22:35] You: You think this is abuse?
[22:36] You: You ain’t seen nothing
[22:36] Alexander Burgess: Phil will love the publicity
[22:37] Arwin LAME: enough of you kids….go to bed before your parents find out what you do when bored
[22:37] You: Arwin I’m reporting you for abuse
(Arwin teleported out then - one down, 18 to go!)
Just as I was running out of abusive ways to say, “get the fuck out,” Zoe popped in for back up. And wow is she hot. But that’s beside the point atm…
I have to admit, I was out of control even for me. But with some of my closest friends gone and half the Philly sim sold due to lag, then the asshole owner not giving a shit, well, you see what desperation and a sense of helplessness can do to somebody. I really did try to reason with that motherfucker - for hours I talked to him. So did many others in Topgol. He told us he’d leave if we all wanted him to, and we all told him we did, but he hasn’t left.
So what are we to do then?
The only thing I know how to do. Act like an ass.
Peace to the pixels and their owners, and may the cosmos be merciful when delivering unto me what karmic debt I’ve incurred.
LOL, this really made me laugh out loud. If it just didn’t have such an annoying background … campers can really ruin your SL experience!
I have sold my parcel on mainland, as I had the same situation there. Lots of camping chairs and the sim always full and laggy. Hate that! Go on kicking and have fun
Man, that whole thing just sucks. I bet you will win in the end, though. Oh.. and Myg.. you are the cutest thing ever… lol.. that outfit, for some reason, makes me think of the Karate Kid. very cute.
/me smiles to Myg and her “Kung Fu” style
Yes, I had the most excellent teacher! *nods to Mistress Lisa*
Mmm … fight lag with lag ?
Organize lag parties with lots of people and lots of scripts at Topgol for a couple of days in a row. If campers can’t get at his casino and his business is getting bad, he’ll probably be more motivated to leave the sim.
The greatest thing about that visit was seeing Myg and Alex in action, making a valiant effort to protect their turf.
One thought I had, with all the lag and lack of response from most of the campers, I realized what exhausting work it was to confront this menace day in and day out.
I know you did not just go on a rampage at the 12 12 Casino Casino Monkey Monkey and not include me!! Wtf?? Topgol is my adopted home. You know I’m all about the fight to stop lag across all of SL. I’ve earned my Bloggers w/ Blades title, dammit, I’m allowed to bear arms!
Wait, who’s kung fu won, anyway - I had my money on Alex and his drunken master style.
[22:33] You: I look awesome, and your face is missing
hahahahahahaha!!! Classic Myg.
Dimi–that’s a great idea! I’ll talk to the rest of the Topgol crew later today and see what they think. We could do a ocuple of things:
1. Occupy the camping chairs but not play any casino games
2. Hang out in Matthew Perreault’s excellent public park that is adjacent to the casino and run a lot of fun script s and generally lag each other out. I love it when I can type a whole paragraph without it even showing up on the preview bar, and then it takes five minutes to show up inworld!
@Wrath: Sorry we didn’t TP you over. You were ensconced in your new land, but we won’t forget next time. As far as who’s kung fu is better, so far it’s a draw.
In other weapons news, the free RPG launcher from jwoulf is a great simple push tool with some minor effects. You may already have it in your inventory…
[1. Occupy the camping chairs but not play any casino games]
With this you will support him only. You can believe me that no camper ever throw a coin into any of the casino games. They have just one task to fulfill: creating traffic. This will be used for marketing arguments again, and for the expansion with even more casinos just because some guys rented some selling space at the “obvious so successful” casino brand.
The only really effective way to get casino owners pissed is to steal their money. But to do this you would need a casino with playing customers. I wont write the details how you can do this in this comments. But I can have a privat chat with Myg or Alex soon.
Good point Vanny. I don’t think we’ll actually need to steal his money. I’m hoping a serious publicity campaign about his ILLEGAL SECOND LIFE CASINO will make him think twice.
Who knows, maybe all of my neighbours’ protest signs actually worked? I know our (former) local casino owner kept trying to cover up the signs directed at his casino. Might not work in your situation if people just tp inside and never see the outside of the building though…
Aren’t they going to do away with keeping traffic information? Maybe that will get rid of camping chairs.
That was glorious =)
And yep, Zoe = hot stuff.
mew!
yeah the bastard has the tp point all the way at the back of the casino - nowhere near the door - so you wouldn’t have any idea that there even is a great little sim outside, let alone see signs. but i think protest signs are a cool idea anyway.
Another thought: if the casino really is illegal like it’s supposed to be, wouldn’t snitching on them to a linden solve the problem? How is this place even allowed to stay open?
I dunno, October, but I’m looking into it. The last thing I remember hearing from LL was the notice that casinos would no longer be permitted to advertise… or something like that. It’s only a matter of time before LL gets serious about it. However, unlike the ageplayers involved in sexual activity, illegal Second Life casino owners tend to own a lot of land, and I think that makes it a little stickier for LL to crack down on it. For all the bitching that goes on, I don’t think LL really likes playing the heavy unless they’re forced to. Eventually, the IRS or possibly the congress, will be all over it, just like they were with other casinos on the net.
In the meantime, I intend to spread the meme “illegal Second Life casino” far and wide…
We could have a blogger party there, we all pick a spot and just chat and IM each other our bloggy business.
This way we accomplish several goals:
1 ) We have our meeting.
2 ) We keep the campers away with our annoying lagginess.
3 ) Practice witty banter with the campers in attendance.
4 ) We educate campers on SL employment opportunities.
5 ) Wrath gets more practice with his Katana.
6 ) More blog posting fodder.
I like that idea!
Well, we’re all for having parties in Topgol, but I’m not sure how enjoyable that one would be–though you people would make even the most tedious lag a funfest. And I know Veyron is in the queue for hosting in June and Tiana in July… and I hope to gods we’ve banished this fucker by August. But maybe we can plan Topgol for the August location either way? (And that way I can get the club finished, as well as all the other builds… *looks at his to do list* yikes!)
Regarding the illegality:
Linden Labs distanced themselves from casinos because some american authorities are investigating if the gambling in SL strikes at some US laws.
So don’t hope on the help of the Lindens. They just move their fingers when the pressure gets very heavy. And we wouldn’t be able to create this pressure, if Wrath isn’t from the NSA for real.
I don’t want to be the only negative or a naysayer. But because of my SL job I was forced to dig a little deeper into this topic and want to share my little knowledge, because I like you guys in Topgol.
So if you count on the outside help you have to wait until the analysis of this authorities are finished. And I have no clue how long this could take.
isnt it supose to be Dinee in july? i know i wanted to host a party too but i’m not ready yet hehe, i need to build a house that can host more people hehe. ^^
Well, that’s true, Vanny. However, so far all of the servers are on US soil, and so any casino being run in SL is in violation of US laws regarding online gambling and as far as I can tell, makes Linden Lab at least partially liable. And even if there is a European colacation facility for servers, if Linden Lab, a US company, is earning money by hosting space for online casinos, they will still be in violation of the law.
Now, I’m not holding my breath waiting for them to fix it, but until there are cross-platform (multi-metaverse) international servers with distributed ownership, the legal issues won’t change for them. Even then, it will be illegal for US citizens to participate. In the meantime, I’m not sure the owner of the 12 Monkey will want to be in the spotlight even if he does live in Europe. And I know Linden Lab won’t be happy if I start a crusade… nothing against casinos in general, but I can’t stand inconsiderate liars who create lag, and I’ll go pretty damn far to get them away from me.
@tiana — oh, maybe it was dinee! I can’t remember now. I just remember that there were two people set up for hosting.
As for me, my plan is to just keep acting like an ass. (I always play to my strengths.) And while it may do little for the lag, at least I’ll entertain myself and annoy the crap out of those very few campers who aren’t “away.”
Aside from that plan, I think the next step is for those of us in Topgol to keep complaining to the owner about the lag. Hopefully we can do this in a way where he doesn’t mute us yet gets so tired of hearing about it he just gets out. Not a surefire plan, but still, it’s a plan.
I also encourage and invite all of you to come to Topgol to experience the swimming-through-wet-concrete feel of the place and play with your scripts in the casino while insulting the campers. When I get home I’ll add the SLURL here, but search “Topgol” and you’ll see the 12 Casino Monkey pop up.
I love the idea of an impromptu blogger party too - and don’t forget, anytime you need to displace your rage, you know the campers are always there, ready, willing, waiting to take it from you.
Anyway, thanks a ton for all the comments today and hope to see you all on the grid tonight. Sculpty prims! woo hoo!
Oh rock ‘n’ roll, funniest thing I’ve read all month…all year?
Shame on me - i was a camper…
And i didn’t even notice the problems the casino brings to the place.
Now, after that action taken by Myg and Alex, i woke up and i’m aware of the situation and i want to solidarize with you in fighting against the lag.
You should know, i’m strictly against violence, but it opened my eyes.
I think the best way to get rid of the casino, as written before, is to produce a heavy lag for some time to take away the ‘fun’ out of a campers life.
Kicking the campers will not be an effective way in my opinion, most campers will simply ignore you, or their rl dependencies aren’t even in the near of the computer, so they just miss it..
Perhaps a positive discussion with the campers will help to persuade them to leave the casino alone.
I guess and i hope at least some of the thinking ones will understand and solidarize, most of them just aren’t aware of the problems the casino causes.
At last let me tell you that i decided to quit camping completely.
I don’t want to tear down the performance of Topgol or any other place, also i don’t want to participate in producing fake traffic.
Shame on me - i was a camper…
Peace
Wow Herby.. admitting your problem is the first step
YOu sound like a pretty cool guy. I guess I would have to agree with you on that. Pissing off people is usually a way to get them to resist what you want them to do…. but… it is so much more fun and satisfying to rip them a new one I am sure! Well, it is a hell of a lot more fun to read about… 
It’s alright Herby! Welcome to Topgol.
Hmm another new info for you guys:
The casino I am working for have 7000 Skripts runnin at the camper SIM. And now the best info for you: It gets more and more often that the payout to the campers get lost because of it.
So I guess on mainland you won’t need this much scripts. Maybe 3000. Let’s go
Lots of creative ideas here
I’m still wondering if creating massive lag would have a big impact on the campers themselves, as they are not moving, chatting or rezzing things, but just sit there and are mostly AFK. The only noticable effect might be on payout scripts, as mentioned above.
i was at that dam place last weekend with a friend armed to the T and trying to set it off. thing is, the ownerfucka has scripts and build disabled, ( push would not be a problem) but no build/ no scripts, he knew why he did set it like that. anyhow, i have an idea, to storm this place scripted, also lots of bling, anything that can make a sim unstable and laggy. and then crash the sim. yes would mean all will go out of topgol, but if thats done constantly - he will get tired of it and leave.
since he is on mainland he can’t set the script performance or turn physical on or off, tee hee hee.
arm yourself comrades, shields, interceptors, ohhh and also wear multiple AO’s - this will cause a tremendous lag!
most campers are ‘ mules ‘, aka alts, non existent who will return with a script to the exact same spot within minutes. and if you catch them in time, again, wear everything posible from attachments, shields, multiple AO’s, interceptors, weapons - dam everything you have!
ten people deep can crash the already laggy sim easyly
and there is nothing ” illegal ” about wearing heavy scripted items, right? right! because it is mainland and mainland can be crashed just as quick. once it will come back up - more then likely, the sim will connect to a different server. ( yes learned some from the ” gridmonkeys ” ), and each server has its up and down’s, lag issues etc depending on the location.
and last but not least, after the sim crashes - write and complain to LL about the constant sim crash due to the casino.
from russia with love,
gala~
How is the neigherbourhood action ‘comité’ called? Write an official notecard explaining everything. Hand that out to all the campers. (You can even put some slurls to better paying camping spots in?)
Get yourself some alts with ani idle scripts. Occupy the shares. If there is a max amount of people allowed on a mainland sim too? If so, see that the place is full?
IM me the casino owner’s name? I’m curious. =d And if needed, I’m sure I can create a messy lag-causing script. My scripting knowledge only extends that far. =D
I love it when the people rise up! To the barricades! Okay, not quite yet, but sounds like we’ve got some good plans on the table. Tanks everyone. (Hi Gala!)
Don’t make me bring my dog over there.
We’ve already seen one oversized ugly casino go bye-bye over here in VeronheosdflkejIlskrueesakn (where the hell do I live again??), and Misery ain’t done yet.
Myg, may I suggest a name for the anti-camping group even if informal (yet!).
the LAG (Lag Anihilation Group) - It’s even cooler since it is a recursive acronym, like GNU or WINE.
CAMP (Camping Affects Mainland Parcels) - Like the above.
CLAM (Campers Liberation Army Movement)
ALS (Anti-Lag Squad)
*evil grins*
Ooh, I like LAG, actually.
mee too Tobie it’s my fav to date ^^
if you approve of this one I will make you a logo and flag you guys
Codie
You have my vote for LAG
T
good! 2 votes for L.A.G.
keep em pouring!
Codie
LAG!
LAG seems to be the favorite–thought I think they’re all excellent and would proudly wear a CLAM tag. Now I have to go take the Not A Meme Challenge #17 and list my groups.
ok Myg and Alex approved, so LAG it is!
OK let me talk to my good friend Illustrator CS2 and see what I can fiddle
Codie
awesome!
Dear Myg,
Your order has been recieved. Our loyal employees are filling up your order. Expect a delivery soon.
With love,
Codie Corp
Myg send me an email at my Gmail please
Codie
Logos and signs are done, I think you guys will like it.
Codie
can’t wait!
YOU’VE GOT FUCKING MAIL!
Wow, that was QUICK! I’m officially impressed.
ahaha wait to see it. and werent you impressed already? *grins*
muahaha they look even better on Flickr *grins*
those will make a lot of noise, me thinks
ok well sent the shirt texture to Myg, you guys should manage to make shirts out of this. now you guys got the protesters pro kit. ^^
since i cant be there helping you to kick campers all the time, view this as my modest contribution to the cause
Codie
hee hee wait til I send them into the SL pool so they show up on the SL blog! hee haw!
I have now visited Topgol myself for the first time and OMG, that lag is baaad! I truely support your fight for freedom, as the place looks awesome.
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